Pesky purses revisited

Last December I wrote a blog about Pillar 43 at Gobekli Tepe and equated “those pesky purses” found at the top with containers for lost knowledge and those holding them as knowledge bearers.

Pillar 43 at Gobekli Tepe:

pillar.jpgPhoto by Klaus-Peter Simon (Own work) [CC BY-SA 3.0 (, via Wikimedia Commons


Apparently I am not the only one fascinated by “pesky purses” and not the only one to see them as containers for knowledge.

Here is some background:

Graham Hancock first brought up the subject in his book Magicians of the Gods (2015). He was writing about Pillar 43 at Gobekli Tepe. As Graham Hancock pointed out, the containers, or banduddû can be found in Babylon and are associated with the Assyrian Apkallu:

Wall_relief_depicting_an_eagle-headed_and_winged_man,_Apkallu,_from_Nimrud-2..JPGBy Osama Shukir Muhammed Amin FRCP(Glasg) (Own work) [CC BY-SA 4.0 (, via Wikimedia Commons


And they are found in South America, most notably on the La Venta Stele:

La_Venta_Stele_19_(Delange).jpgPublic Domain: By Audrey and George Delange (Audrey and George Delange) [Attribution], via Wikimedia Commons


Here is some new information:

Freddy Silva has written an article for the Ancient Origins website and he has more to say about the “knowledge” these “pesky purses” contain.

His article,  Banduddû: Solving the Mystery of the Babylonian Container is in the member’s section and not generally available to the public, so I will summarize his main points as they relate to my previous blog post. (If you have not checked out Ancient Origins website, do so. You do not have to be a “member” to subscribe and get some really enlightening articles—just not this one.)

In his article, Freddy Silva makes note of the many depictions of the Apkallu around fruit trees:

King-Ashur-nasir-pal-II-1.jpgBy M0tty (Own work) [CC BY-SA 3.0 (, via Wikimedia Commons


He equates the tree with the Tree of Knowledge, so famous for bearing the fruit of forbidden knowledge. I would agree. I also see this as an earlier version of the Qabalistic Tree of Life which has three columns and side “spheres:”

tol_map.gifCopyright 2002-Servants of the Light (Used with permission)


We find the Tarot key of the Fool, carrying his “pesky purse” from Kether—the white sphere—to Chokmah—the grey sphere.

RWS_Tarot_00_Fool.jpgFrom Rider-Waite-Smith deck. No longer under copyright.

Pinecones or pomegranates?

Now take a look at the object held up by the Apkallu:

8606000868_78ae19fba6_b.jpg(CC BY-NC-SA 2.0)


Freddy Silva identifies them as the pomegranates, the forbidden fruit of the Tree of Knowledge. I disagree. I see them as pine cones, representative of the pineal gland, long associated in mystical literature with third eye, and with the ability to “see beyond….” The pinecone is associated with hidden (but not necessarily forbidden) knowledge.

Here is a picture from Freddy Silva’s article showing “real life” banduddû:


banduddu.jpg(Fabien Dany and CC BY-SA 2.5)



Note the serpents on several of them and compare that to the man surrounded by the serpent on the La Vente stele:

La_Venta_Stele_19_(Delange).jpgPublic Domain: By Audrey and George Delange (Audrey and George Delange) [Attribution], via Wikimedia Commons


Snakes and serpents are a symbol of regeneration, rebirth as Mr. Silva aptly points out in his article. But serpents are also a symbol for kundalini. Now consider the pinecone as the pineal, the “destination” of rising kundalini, as that which awakens the powers of the pineal.

Finally, to quote Mr. Silva, “…the mysterious banduddû seems to be associated with a form of restricted knowledge that links the mortal world with that of the gods.” I quite agree, but for somewhat differing reasons.

He then goes on to postulate that Gobekli Tepe was, among other things, a special “classroom.” Perhaps it was more than that—perhaps it was intended to help preserve and share this special knowledge.


For more information:

Banduddû: Solving the Mystery of the Babylonian Container;

Note: There is so much more in this article than I have illustrated here. I have only touched on some of the major points.

Ancient Origins:

Qabalistic Tree of Life:



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14 thoughts on “Pesky purses revisited

      1. I think there are a LOT of connections between South America and Asia and Middle East…and very likely Atlantis (legends of the Maya say they fled Atlanta to South America. But the whole pineal gland/pinecone thing is curious to me. I wonder sometimes if it’s a conflated concept…like it meant something on its own symbolically, but later got associated with the pineal more recently. I do wonder because it’s pretty significant an object.

        Offhand, it reminds me of the concept from India of the chakras as having these petals. They are shown over and over. But really, it’s a kind of analog of how the energy FEELS, which is how it unfolds…dimensional in nature. Like an onion, our energy body/consciousness is like this (but again, this is just an image, a simile, an analog), but split open an onion and what do you have? A thousand-petalled lotus? A pinecone has a very similar quality. Just looking at them sparks the same recognition in me.

        So who knows what THEY were thinking, but all spiritual truths are wrapped in symbols with the symbol, when well-chosen carries this “power” which is the power to remind you of that nonphysical thing that lies within.

        The Mayan or Olmec purse is a dead ringer, though, right?


      2. Yes to dead ringer. I was in contact w/ someone over the weekend w/ more artifacts of pesky purses–coming soon.
        Pineal as symbol? Absolutely. It is all symbol as symbol can express a truth hidden by words.
        Love your blog–do not (user friendly-wise) see how to subscribe!


      3. Anyone who has awakened the kundalini will know this is an inner sense…no way seeing out into the cosmos or dimensions or into the quantum level is physical. The priests of Quetzalcoatl would know this as Q was said to take them on journies out of the body….and anyone having an OOBE knows you have these nonphysical senses that have nothing to do with sensing just this density. Anyway, it sticks in my craw mostly because I think there is more. Problem is when someone has settled on an idea and have published material around it, they become less flexible in considering looking further very often.

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    1. Think about it–what do Thrones represent? Thrones-Binah-understandings? Thrones–the holders of a lineage. In the language of symbols, many connections can be made. What are Thrones to you?


      1. They are Above us! i would say, they are in tuned to mystical and or higher powers that people cant mostly fathom (best description at the moment),would you like to SEE a picture of 1 that sits in the first Throne with the Left handed bird under/ in front of Him,???


  1. It occurs to me that it could depict an actual tool. Perhaps used as a pendulum to calculate a metric constant based on solar astronomy. A’la Alaxander Thom’s Megalithic Yard… That’s why it’s often in the hands of wisdom or civilizing gods, etc…

    Anyone know of a researcher promulgating a pesky purse pendulum postulate?


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